[ISLMA-Share] Lemont removing books?

Fri Dec 2 14:56:52 CST 2016

And how many seasons of Law and Order SVU are we into? My fifth graders
watch it with permission. (And that's just one example.)

But books talking about rape aren't appropriate for high schoolers to
discuss in a safe and controlled environment?

This has always confused me.

On Dec 2, 2016 2:51 PM, "Email list for the Illinois School Library Media
Association" <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:

> You are sure right about that!  Sad that we are coming to this.
> Nancy
>
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Email list for the Illinois School Library
> Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Miss Joan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Butch Wilson
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>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Email list for the Illinois School
>> Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Apologies...let's try this again...
>>> Response from my high school English teacher is to remind parents what
>>> Pat Conroy had to say....
>>>
>>> http://www.patconroy.com/articles_cg-10-07.php
>>>
>>> Joan Sutherland
>>> Arthur School District
>>> teacher/librarian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Email list for the Illinois School
>>> Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Response from my high school English teacher is to remind parents what
>>>> Pat Conroy had to say....
>>>>
>>>> http://chronicleillinois.com/news/cook-county-news/lemont-h-
>>>> s-class-reading-list-questioned-parents/
>>>>
>>>> Joan Sutherland
>>>> Arthur School District
>>>> teacher-librarian
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Email list for the Illinois School
>>>> Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm a junior high media specialist, but my son attends Lemont High.
>>>>> Coincidences are can be strange and worrisome.  I was just reading the
>>>>> article about 15 minutes ago when I received one of those automated
>>>>> emergency phone calls from Lemont High School admin.  The school has just
>>>>> been evacuated... all students have been sent home at the request of the
>>>>> Lemont police authorities because of a threatening email received at the
>>>>> school.  No other details have been released yet.  Let's just hope these
>>>>> two events are unrelated.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Email list for the Illinois School
>>>>> Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that it is important to recognize that in this instance,
>>>>>> proper procedures for adding content to the curriculum was not followed and
>>>>>> thus, this book was ripe for a challenge. Had the book been veted through
>>>>>> the procedures in place, the supporters would have had a stronger case for
>>>>>> keeping the book. A strong challenge policy that requires persons--both
>>>>>> challengers and reviewers--to have read the entire work also helps keep
>>>>>> material in the curriculum and on the shelves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There will always be people who do not like material for one reason
>>>>>> or another--religious viewpoint, sex, violence, language, etc.--and people
>>>>>> who underestimate students and overestimate the impact of a single reading
>>>>>> experience. I am a conservative (small c) parent, but I am not threathened
>>>>>> by literature (translate as enlightened). I recognize that I am different
>>>>>> and that others have different opinions about what is best for their
>>>>>> children. As a parent, I appreciate when there are reading choices as
>>>>>> opposed to assigned reading; as an educator, I realize that this can be
>>>>>> problematic. It is unfortunate, that in this case, it escalated to this
>>>>>> level. School boards who are elected officials often side with the
>>>>>> electorate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gretchen Zaitzeff
>>>>>> Librarian
>>>>>> University High School
>>>>>> Normal, IL
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* islma-bounces at list.railslibraries.info [
>>>>>> islma-bounces at list.railslibraries.info] on behalf of Email list for
>>>>>> the Illinois School Library Media Association [
>>>>>> islma at list.railslibraries.info]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 02, 2016 10:48 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* islma at list.railslibraries.info
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ISLMA-Share] Lemont removing books?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree completely with Brian Andrusyk. That is always one of my
>>>>>> first thoughts too, both as a parent and a teacher librarian. And why is it
>>>>>> always sexuality that is stripped down to minutia and itemized as
>>>>>> prohibited but not violence in general? Books with high levels of violent
>>>>>> content are rarely questioned or complained about as long as it isn’t
>>>>>> sexual violence. This drives me mental. If you are going to flag one type
>>>>>> of content then you must flag all types. Punching, hitting, beating,
>>>>>> killing, war, genocide; these are all serious things too and children will
>>>>>> need guidance, explanations and help understanding it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Final thought is, how can someone ever, *ever* label a rape scene,
>>>>>> especially of a child, as “porn”? Pornography is meant to entertain and
>>>>>> titillate. A rape scene in Maya Angelou’s book, or Laurie Halse Anderson’s
>>>>>> books, or the many, many other brave authors who have tried to shed light
>>>>>> on date rape and rape culture is meant to do just that; shed light and
>>>>>> expose a terrible wrong. Maya Angelou is telling her actual experience
>>>>>> meant to educate and shed light on wrongs done to her. The only way to
>>>>>> correct a wrong is to see the wrong in the first place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This stuff just makes my blood boil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Kristen Rademacher*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Librarian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eco Club Director
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 Book 1 Marist Director
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Marist High School <http://www.marist.net/academics/arclibrary/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 773.881.5356
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @1Book1Marist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rademacher.kristen at marist.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* islma-bounces at list.railslibraries.info [mailto:
>>>>>> islma-bounces at list.railslibraries.info] *On Behalf Of *Email list
>>>>>> for the Illinois School Library Media Association
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 02, 2016 10:32 AM
>>>>>> *To:* islma at list.railslibraries.info
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ISLMA-Share] Lemont removing books?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whenever I read articles such as this one, I always wonder one
>>>>>> thing.  Why do people make a fuss over what their children are reading and
>>>>>> not make a fuss over what they are watching on television, at the movies,
>>>>>> or viewing on the Internet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian Andrusyk
>>>>>> School Librarian/Sub Coordinator
>>>>>> IC Catholic Prep
>>>>>> www.andrusykslibrary.weebly.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently Reading:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *The Eyre Affair* by Jasper Fforde
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* islma-bounces at list.railslibraries.info [
>>>>>> mailto:islma-bounces at list.railslibraries.info
>>>>>> <islma-bounces at list.railslibraries.info>] *On Behalf Of *Email list
>>>>>> for the Illinois School Library Media Association
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 2, 2016 10:13 AM
>>>>>> *To:* islma at list.railslibraries.info
>>>>>> *Subject:* [ISLMA-Share] Lemont removing books?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://chronicleillinois.com/news/cook-county-news/lemont-h-
>>>>>> s-class-reading-list-questioned-parents/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI. I like staying up on the happenings around the state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gail Meyer, Librarian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TF South High School
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gmeyer at tfd215.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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