[ISLMA-Share] dewey for mammals

Wed Jan 25 11:32:14 CST 2017

I completely agree Amanda!  Many books can be argued for placement in several different locations, and our job is to put it where our kids will find it.  My kids know how dewey works, but they are not always sure where it would be as it's completely believable for it to be either location.  I went to a workshop years ago and the librarians there encouraged us to move our books if we don't think it is where it belongs.  I came home and moved a lot of stuff to where I thought kids were more likely to look for it, and they thought I had ordered new books!  My goal is to always keep them reading, and every time I walk into a book store, I look around and take mental notes.  Bookstores have to convince people not only to read, but to shell out money to do so, and therefore they have a lot of motivation to convince people to pick up the books and read them.  And organizational systems are continually growing and evolving, and the best thing we can do is teach the kids to look around figure out the system to find what they want--that's what will work in the long run.

Valerie brunner
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I’m gonna posit that most of those kids wouldn’t be able to search for books in different libraries anyway :\ We found that even though our students were taught how to use the DDS plenty of times over the years, the vast majority of kids still didn’t understand it and were unable to find the books they needed. Most adults don’t know how to find books in libraries. To me, that’s an argument for moving toward a more browsable, bookstore-style system (at least for smaller libraries - of course in a research library that’s impractical).

At the end of the day, my top priority is getting kids to read, and I do what I can to facilitate that - even if means throwing some of the traditional library stuff out the window. Yeah, they might struggle when they get to high school - and then they’ll struggle again when they get to college and they have to use LOC, or when they move abroad, or when their public library shifts to modified BISAC or whatever. Learning to access information is a lifelong process; as long as they walk away from middle school knowing that libraries are organized, I don’t think it matters much which organizational scheme is used.

Amanda Crowley
Library Media Specialist
Northbrook Junior High School
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On Jan 25, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Email list for the Illinois School Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info<mailto:islma at list.railslibraries.info>> wrote:

Ladies,

I keep reading how you are "changing" the shelf call #s, and I wonder how this will affect students if they go to other libraries?  As a middle school LMC Director, I'm wondering if this will cause students to be unable to search for books in different libraries?

Am I missing something here?

Have a great day,
Michelle

Michelle Fiorini
Library Media Center Director
Benjamin Middle School
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"A book, too, can be a star, 'explosive material, capable of stirring up fresh life endlessly,' a living fire to lighten the darkness, leading out into the expanding universe."
― Madeleine L’Engle, from her Newbery Award acceptance speech for A Wrinkle in Time (1963)

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I didn't think to do this with animals and sports. That's fantastic.  I did something similar with all my folktales.  I switched their call number to Folklore and then the common tale like Folklore Pigs for the 3 little pigs, Folklore Cinder, Folklore Gold (Goldilocks). Not perfect, but it at least grouped all the folk tales that teachers like to grab for compare and contrast lessons.

Taryn Hettlinger Parise
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Longfellow School
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Email list for the Illinois School Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info<mailto:islma at list.railslibraries.info>> wrote:
This post is just what I need! I have been wanting to tackle my animal section for years (!) and this will motivate me to do it. I am looking at retirement in 5+ years and I want to leave my library the way I wish I had found it...

I am updating my sports section and just added an updated set of NFL teams, which, of course, are by different authors, so I used 796.332 NFL. They look nice all together on the shelf and they come up in the catalog in alphabetical order by team name...

Christine Cahill
Teacher/Librarian
Carrie Busey School
304 Prairie Rose Lane
Savoy, IL 61874
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Email list for the Illinois School Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info<mailto:islma at list.railslibraries.info>> wrote:
I ended up doing this with all my sports books. Even I dreaded shelving them! So all my sports books are now 796 BASEBALL or 796 FOOTBALL. For my few odd balls, or general activity books, I labeled them 796 SPORTS.

I never thought of doing that with animals.  That's a great idea.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Email list for the Illinois School Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info<mailto:islma at list.railslibraries.info>> wrote:
I had the same problem. It's really hard to be consistent with the animal numbers and they get so long.

We ended up going to one digit past the decimal and use the animal name instead of the author. Students, teachers, parent volunteers, and library staff love it.

599.6 Zebras
599.2 Koalas
599.7 Bears
597.3 Sharks
598.4 Penguins

We have labels on the shelves for the different animals. Similar animals are still near each other by going on digit past the decimal. It's easy to remember one digit past the decimal. Shelving and inventory are very easy. It means we need to change call numbers for all new books and make new spine labels if they come processed, but the consistency is worth it.

Jill Berry
Elm School
Burr Ridge

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Email list for the Illinois School Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info<mailto:islma at list.railslibraries.info>> wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find a very detailed list for mammals in dewey? We are looking through our mammals section and there are animals everywhere that are not very well organized. For example, I have zebra books that are labeled 599.66, 599.665, and 599.72. I have some awesome parents that are helping with this, but I am having a hard time trying to find the correct numbers from some of these animals (yes I took a cataloging class and that is helping immensely but it would still help if there was a place to find a nice long list!).

Thanks!
Rikki Steinmetz
Pleasantdale School District
Burr Ridge, IL
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