[ISLMA-Share] Memoirs

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This thread has inspired me to merge my 921 BIO section into the rest of
Dewey!

Thanks!

Mariela Siegert
School Librarian
Westfield Middle School
marris116 at gmail.com
@marris116
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Email list for the Illinois School Library
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> Well, I'm old too and worked in libraries since 6th grade (actually
> thinking of retirement now for first time).  I fought the trend till last
> year.  Honestly having worked in public libraries for over 12 years and
> worked in academic for 6 years, I can tell you patrons/students do not have
> a recollection of *any* substantive nature of the DDC.  Seriously.
> Universities use Library of Congress which has zero carry-over from DDC.
> We all survive.  The two local libraries here that my students use have
> genrefied their fiction collections from Childrens through YA.  Adult
> collection will most certainly follow.  So....it was time to kick in and I
> genrefied my fiction.  I am doing some serious adaptations of Dewey for
> nonfiction to pull together related materials and get rid of having to know
> geography in order to get books on a particular country.  I'm a history
> teacher as well and it makes me sad on one side, but upside, I LOVE sending
> AP government students to one area to get their book report materials.
> I've integrated biographies and civil rights and government (just US) into
> the 900s.  So I'm making my library work for my students in the here and
> now and trust that they will ask for help at the public library or
> university library as the case may be.
>
> Kristine Schauff, Media Specialist
> Rock Falls High School
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> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Email list for the Illinois School
> Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:
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>> I may be just old, but the point of the Dewey system was to bring a
>> measure of standardization to libraries.  Throwing out Dewey and
>> substituting "Lives" for Biography does nothing to prepare students to use
>> a public library or a university library, which is presumably what we are
>> helping kids prepare for.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Email list for the Illinois School
>> Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:
>>
>>> The English Dept. and Library here are deep into choice reading.
>>>
>>> I’ve tossed Dewey. Biographies and memoirs are in a section called
>>> LIVES.
>>>
>>> It was about making reading accessible to students.
>>>
>>> 363.82 or 979.4 were barriers to access.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rebecca Plaza, Library Media Specialist
>>>
>>> Mundelein High School
>>>
>>> @MHSMediaCenter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* islma-bounces at list.railslibraries.info [mailto:
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>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:36 PM
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [ISLMA-Share] Memoirs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I genrified biographies last year and it has done what we wanted. Our
>>> biographies have always been popular, but now students are reading about
>>> people they wouldn't have know to ask for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's the format
>>>
>>> Bio
>>>
>>> Baseball
>>>
>>> Jeter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aerospace
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> Author
>>>
>>> Autobiography (mostly authors, but sometimes students need
>>> autobiographies)
>>>
>>> Baseball
>>>
>>> Basketball
>>>
>>> Environment
>>>
>>> First Ladies
>>>
>>> Football
>>>
>>> History (not US)
>>>
>>> Hockey
>>>
>>> Humanitarians
>>>
>>> Music
>>>
>>> Native Americans
>>>
>>> Presidents
>>>
>>> Science
>>>
>>> Soccer
>>>
>>> Sports (not listed elsewhere)
>>>
>>> US History
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jill Berry
>>>
>>> Elm School
>>>
>>> Burr Ridge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Email list for the Illinois School
>>> Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm in the process of pulling out biographies (ours have been shelved in
>>> with nonfiction) and integrating memoirs, so this was a spot-on question
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> Here is where I"m confused: I'm looking at the *Abridged Dewey Decimal
>>> Classification 15* book for help with some Dewey questions, and 920 is
>>> biography, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 921 is "Philosophers and psychologists"  (presumably "biographies of..."
>>>
>>> 922 is "Religious leaders , thinkers & workers"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why are all my biographies classified as 921?  And what would be the
>>> thought process behind putting memoirs at 922?  (This is a genuine follow
>>> up question, not a criticism of your question, Amy! :) ).  Am I missing or
>>> misunderstanding something in the Dewey guide?  Ultimately I may just label
>>> them Biography & Memoir, but now I"m curious about this.  Some input from
>>> someone who knows more about cataloging than I do would be appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Anita
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Email list for the Illinois School
>>> Library Media Association <islma at list.railslibraries.info> wrote:
>>>
>>> We often have students looking for a biography or memoir, so most of
>>> ours are in 920.  My unofficial criteria is that if it is about a famous
>>> person or mainly about his/her life, I put it in biography; if it is mainly
>>> about a situation (ex. surviving abuse, medical condition, drug addiction,
>>> etc.), I lean toward putting it in the relevant Dewey section.  I try to
>>> put it where it is most likely to be found.
>>>
>>>
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>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:15 PM
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>>> *Subject:* [ISLMA-Share] Memoirs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Internal debate happening in my head.  I am thinking of putting all my
>>> memoirs in 922 (next to my biographies in 921 on a separate wall).  My
>>> concern is that by not putting it into it's dewey subject number that I'll
>>> be missing kids who want to read books about people's stories from that
>>> subject.  For example, sports is big concern.  It's the most known and used
>>> section, so they all know it's 700's.  But if I take the sports memoirs out
>>> of the 700's and put it in 922, it's one more place for them to look for a
>>> book they want. Middle schoolers may just give up and not bother looking at
>>> 922.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What would you do? Does anyone have their memoirs in 922?  Or do you
>>> keep it with the dewey number?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Amy Hamernick
>>> Media Specialist
>>>
>>> Apple Teacher
>>>
>>> Century Jr. High
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "If we always do what we've always done,
>>> we will get what we've always got."
>>> ~Adam Urbanski~
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